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CFAS Connects: May Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Neil Osheroff
46:56
Y'all come….
Eric Weissman - AAMC
47:37
https://www.aamc.org/professional-development/affinity-groups/cfas/resources
Eric Weissman - AAMC
47:53
the highlights slides are near the top of that page of that link...
Nita Ahuja
49:01
Raise your hand or put your name in chat if you want to chat
Eric Weissman - AAMC
49:32
Yes - this is an open conversation about the meeting we had in April and new topics and issues to cover in upcoming programming.
Eric Weissman - AAMC
49:42
So please add your perspective.
Eric Weissman - AAMC
50:22
Shoutout to Nick for leading our most popular plenary session!
Eric Weissman - AAMC
52:01
Great points, Nick.
Eric Weissman - AAMC
52:26
Lily is another Program Committee member.
Edgar Meyer
54:13
Hey, everyone, I cannot chime in orally because I am not in a quiet area, so I will just add comments here. I appreciate all that the leadership and organizers have done to keep the momentum of this group going.
Nita Ahuja
54:43
@Edgar, glad u are logged on
Lonika Sood
56:30
Agree with Adi (even as i add this to the chat 🙂)
Adi Haramati
57:54
Lonika, using chat in a session like this is an asset. Figuring out how to enable our voices to be heard in an in-person meeting is our challenge.
Eric Weissman - AAMC
58:01
AAMC Council of Deans meeting has smaller attendance than usual - but wasn't dramatically smaller.
Steven Angus
59:13
GRA was $1600 for 2 days!
Adi Haramati
59:22
ouch
Nita Ahuja
59:27
@Steven, sticker shock
Jon Courand
01:04:53
AS we are talking about costs for in-person meetings (registration, airfare, hotel etc.) has anyone had pushback from leadership about not wanting to support these when virtual is far cheaper.
Adi Haramati
01:05:36
@Jon. Exactly why. hybrid meetings are problematic
Neil Osheroff
01:08:15
I am also surprised how low GRAND scored…
Adi Haramati
01:09:20
@Neil, I feel it reflects that composition of the reps
Neil Osheroff
01:09:57
@Adi, Agreed…
Martha Alexander-Miller
01:10:19
Agree with Adi. But this is increasingly important in the ever shrinking of research as enterprises grow larger and larger clinically.
Adi Haramati
01:11:04
@Martha, @Neil agree that it needs to be discussed
Marieke Kruidering (she/her)
01:11:48
ediucational research
Edgar Meyer
01:12:06
educational research here as well
Eric Weissman - AAMC
01:12:15
@neil - I know that GRAND is interested in having a connection to CFAS - and there are also a number of former CFAS reps in GRAND - Tika, Mike Freidlander, etc.
Neil Osheroff
01:12:37
Thanks Eric.
Jocelyn Chertoff
01:13:38
In our system, hospital leadership is more influential than the Dean
Monica Baskin (she/her)
01:13:48
I would agree that research should be a focus, particularly as academic medical centers are relying on NIH $ to sure up gaps in revenue. This is leading to greater pressure on research faculty (meaning people who are primarily conducting research).
Scott D Gitlin
01:14:09
I agree that the "low" score is likely related to who is chosen to be a CFAS rep. However, the environment to support research and other scholarly activity is crucial to maintain an environment that promotes faculty interests across the board (rather than the transactional 'business' aspects of our institutions.
Neil Osheroff
01:14:32
I am concerned that the research enterprise is becoming more and more insular and dissociated from the other functions of medical schools.
Marieke Kruidering (she/her)
01:17:03
@neil - good point and agree
Dina Calamur
01:18:39
For a lot of clinicians, what Neil said is true. Most of our time is spent doing clinical pursuits to support the clinical mission and little to no time spent on scholarly pursuits, which is a critical piece to promotion.
Steven Angus
01:20:28
agree with Jeffrey
Eric Weissman - AAMC
01:20:44
This to me is obviously a topic for us to take on - the intersection of research/basic science faculty - with faculty peers across the AHC.
Neil Osheroff
01:21:05
Pre-clerkship years…we all teach clinical aspects in our basic science courses.
Adi Haramati
01:22:40
@Jeffrey, there have been advances in helping to create basic science educators that also understand the importance of relevance in what and how is taught. IA
Adi Haramati
01:23:05
IAMSE has led here. @ Neil and @ Amy Wilson Delfosse can comment
Edgar Meyer
01:23:29
Also, there is more and more pressure for PhD scientist faculty to procure most of their salary from extramural funding. It is very hard for those faculty to be able to teach when they are so worried about their own livelihoods if they don’t get the grants they need to sustain their careers.
Monica Baskin (she/her)
01:24:42
@Edgar - YES, YES, and YES!!!
Tracey Weiler
01:25:05
There is a group of basic science medical faculty who are primarily researchers, and obtain the funds for their FTE from extramural funding. There is another group of basic science medical faculty who do not have extramural funding, and whose role is not primarily research, but rather teaching.
Alexander Bolt
01:25:21
https://PollEv.com/free_text_polls/Y0Xj5vDDvz5yVwVL8aTWM/respond
Eric Weissman - AAMC
01:25:27
One of the best conversations we've had here. THANK YOU for your feedback.
ssexson
01:28:47
The conversation was interesting but seemed to try to counteract the actual rankings...
ssexson
01:29:50
I agree with that for sure
Tracey Weiler
01:31:07
Transparency across the AHC and between AHCs is important
Nick D - U Arizona
01:32:57
Love the word cloud exercise. Thank you!
Edgar Meyer
01:33:38
@Tracey: I am fortunate enough to be in a place where my salary is fully supported, but there are institutions that do not make teaching faculty and research faculty distinctions. I fear too though that some places almost want to separate them too much.
Allison Ownby
01:34:25
@Edgar - Agree!!!
Winnie Lau (She/Her)
01:35:16
Absolutely second Steven's comment
Nita Ahuja
01:35:17
Faculty Retention and Engagement!
Tracey Weiler
01:35:29
@Edgar and Allison, although my salary is fully supported as a basic science teacher and educator, I am compensated significantly less than my colleagues who do the same work as an MD.
Scott D Gitlin
01:36:08
I think we may have identified a theme for next Spring's CFAS meeting (the health health system
Edgar Meyer
01:36:18
Thank you all!